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Smashing Pumpkins frontman Billy Corgan has written off the last 15 years of rock music, saying that the last band to do anything innovative with their guitars were Radiohead.

The musician made his claims in a recent interview, opening up on his theories as to why guitar music has dropped off in popularity and more people listen to electronic music and pop.

“We get our asses kicked by EDM or some of these artists that are more keyboard and drum machine and reverb,” Corgan told EW. “They’re engaging in new technology. Guitar isn’t new technology—there are only so many ways you can warp it around. Radiohead was probably the last band that really did anything new with the guitar.”